[MOSAIC] retention question

ljackson ljackson at gwtc.net
Sat Aug 11 20:23:26 EDT 2007


In a word.... Funding and excessive referrals to special ed.

Lori


On 8/11/07 3:06 PM, "Joy" <jwidmann at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> Red tape is the biggest stumbling block to getting children extra help. The
> exceptional children teachers can't work with a student unless they are
> identified, because of the way the funding works. We lose precious time while
> we do paperwork. Does anyone know why we are chasing paper instead of teaching
> children? Seems like the intent of the law and the implementation of the law
> have taken opposite paths.
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> Carrie Cahill <ccahill at msd143.s-cook.k12.il.us> wrote:
>   Sandi (and others)...
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> What I remember about the research on this is mostly from Linda
> Darling-Hammond and it's about the training behind the teacher - once
> again. Her research looks at low-income schools and the dire need for
> highly qualified (not in the Feds terms, but in professional terms)
> teachers in those environments. Nobody disputes the need for
> interventions with struggling students or the fact that it should be
> done right away. So, the primary aged student had a better shot at
> success if their needs were addressed asap (I like the idea of "needs
> being addressed" better than "intervening"....intervening sounds too
> much like a medical model of diagnose and treat - and I don't believe
> that model should be used in the education field. Intervention also
> makes me think of RtI - Response to Intervention - which is probably
> going to be the downfall of public education in the end.) Sorry, I
> digress. Anyway, I don't recall specific studies following young
> struggling students who were NOT retained, but the point they made was
> that we need to focus on the skills of the teacher and the decisions
> they make when teaching their students.
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> "Carrie...I have a question, since you did your dissertation on
> retention, are there any studies of a child in K or 1st who was a
> candidate for retention, but was not retained, how that child did as
> they went through the grades? And this in comparison to a K or 1st who
> was retained and in comparison to other "low" students who weren't
> candidates for retention."
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> Carrie
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> K-8, Illinois
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>   How children learn is as important as what they learn: process and content
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Lori Jackson
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