[MOSAIC] STAR

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I have found it very reliable when I test the students one on one, not when I do a mass testing in the lab. They just start picking anything unless I am there watching them, some I have read it to me aloud. We have lots of people say it is unreliable as well.
Terry

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From: Beverlee Paul <beverleepaul at hotmail.com>
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group <mosaic at literacyworkshop.org>
Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] best iri



Since Lori mentioned the STAR, I'd be interested in what you all think of the 
validity of that test.  Generally, several of the teachers at my school don't 
see it as accurate, by any means, but our library para believes it is highly 
accurate.  I haven't ever had anything to do with it, so I'm a clean slate.  If 
anyone would comment, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks.  Bev

> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:55:57 -0700> From: ljackson at gwtc.net> To: 
mosaic at literacyworkshop.org> Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] best iri> > I think finding a 
screening tool is a challenge when we are talking about teachers who deal with 
larger numbers of students than a single classroom. Our ninth grade reading 
teacher used the QRI this year. She conducted the readings in one on one 
sessions with the students and used the comprehension questions as an interview. 
She is working with the most troubled groups of readers, but generally has 12-18 
kids in her classes. Previously she had been required to use the STAR, which 
none of us like, and she likes the QRI much better. I believe she used only the 
passage reading, and she did running records with a miscue eye. I don't suppose 
anything is perfect, and to be honest, I cannot see the majority of our middle 
or high school teachers willing to do anything that requires 1:1 assessment.> > 
My husband taught two sections of 8th grade reading this year (with a 
certification in Art Education and a master's in Technology Education, go 
figure) and he used the QRI in a slightly different way. He administered an 
on-level passage at the beginning of the year and kids did the questions (typed 
up with more room to respond) in writing. Then he re-administered passages with 
readers who did not score in the instructional and independent ranges. These he 
did orally. This amounted to some 2-6 readers, I believe, and that doesn't seem 
to me to be an overwhelming task. Our other high school reading teacher (working 
a more confident and more able group) plans to administer in this way in the 
coming year. > > I would so appreciate a continuing conversation about assessing 
reading with students at the middle and high school level.> > Lori> > > > ----- 
Original message -----> From: gina nunley <gina_nunley at hotmail.com>> To: 
mosaic at literacyworkshop.org> Date: 2008, 08, Saturday Of March 15:27> Subject: 
[MOSAIC] best iri> > > Wow I actually took a course from Silvaroli at ASU back 
in the early 80s.> > > > Our district reviewed IRIs about 7 years ago and 
couldn't find big differences in them. In the end we were down to Jerry John's 
and QRI. (Qualitative Reading Inventory) We chose QRI because they were going to 
allow us to purchase 1 book for a grade level and then copy passages, whereas 
Jerry John required us to purchase every teacher a book and we didn't have the 
funds. We made kits from the QRI and gave one to each teacher.> > > > Overall I 
like it. It offers narrative and expository passages and there is a mixture of 
implicit and explicit comprehension questions. You can do a reading rate at the 
same time, and of course you can do as much as you'd like with the miscue 
analysis. What upper grade teachers don't always understand is that unlike the 
early year's running records, a QRI is only good as a beginning, middle, and end 
of the year assessment. ( I even wonder about how helpful the middle of the year 
is). The running records of early grades of course reflect the big leaps those 
readers make within short periods of time. You aren't going to see many older 
kids jump a full grade level from beginning to middle. > > > > > > Gina > > 6th 
grade ELA> > _________________________________________________________________> 
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